Georgia Holz: This
year’s guest curators—Guillaume Désanges, Helmut Draxler, and now you—have
chosen very diverse approaches in presenting the collection. While Guillaume
brought together a rather didactic and as he called it popular exhibition for
which he selected many “pioneers” of Conceptual art, Helmut reflected on the
interaction of collecting and exhibition making at the Generali Foundation.
Your approach again is a different one, how would you describe it?
Gertrud Sandqvist: A collection could
be there mainly for study purposes, but as soon as one exhibits it, it also
creates an art experience, and it is this experience I would like to focus on.
When it comes to Conceptual art, this focus is not at all self-evident on the
contrary many of the experiments and thoughts about Conceptual art have questioned
what this “experience” consists of. But if one looks closer into many of the works
in the Generali Foundation Collection, they point at or call for precisely the
experience, which means that there is a difference between seeing them in
reality and reading about them or to "get the idea". If this
difference exists, I mean that one could talk about an art experience also when
it comes to Conceptual art, which means that there is integrity in the artwork
which goes beyond its concept.
Georgia Holz: You
said, what interests you most in the Generali Foundation Collection is its
ambiguities, fissures as you call them. While the collection as a whole is
striving for identity as a coherent Conceptual art collection, it is the
autonomy of artworks themselves that is able to break with this reading. You
use the phrase "to spill over" for describing this autonomy. Could
you further explain what this "spilling over" of the art works means?
Gertrud Sandqvist: I
believe Marcel Duchamp had a point when he was writing about the “art
co-efficient,” which according to him is there in all art. The art co-efficient
means that there is something in the artwork that the artist didn't intend, and
it is precisely the unintended, which transforms a work into art. This is of
course exactly what the conceptual artists denied or at least tried to avoid.
But as soon as one materializes an idea something happens, which cannot be
completely controlled—not to say what happens when this artwork meets the spectator.
This is becoming even more obvious when you find such a fine and coherent
collection as the one in the Generali Foundation. A collection is a result of
choices, of decisions, in the end of interpretations. It means that one, from
the extremely rich “intensity field,” which is an artwork, decides on one (or
two or more) parameters which make it possible to include the work in, for
instance a collection of Conceptual art. But even here there are aspects of the
artwork which act diversely. This is a great strength, I think, which makes it
possible for the artwork to expand over the moment in time and context when it
ws conceived.
Georgia Holz is Assistant-Curator at Generali Foundation.
